Quote G1="G1"We do.
Here we disagree. The stats show similar numbers. They do not show their performances are similar. You go on to say yourself there is no stats to show who won collision, aggression in collision, speed of play the ball, activity at marker etc. How then can these cumulative facts show a similar performance? They certainly cannot pass as facts.'"
True. But forgetting Kirke for the moment you cannot get away from the low number of hit ups and metres gained (over a long period) for Bailey when compared to most of the other forwards. A props main job is to do the hit ups and take the side forward.
Quote G1="G1"It is grossly unfair to compare any prop to Peacock. He is a freak. You may consider both players below par for a champion side but they have both played their parts in three champion sides.'"
OK compare then with JJB who is smaller physically, plays in more games (and more starts when its tough) and averages over 27 tackles , with 13.67 hit ups and over 90 metres gain, per game. As I said before these stats don't record the kick chase and creative play that JJB regularly delivers. Of course both Bailey & Kirk have played their part in 3 championships as they are part of the squad.
Quote G1="G1"I call it as I see it, usually with little reference to the stats. I see what Kirke does and doesn't do in games. I see what Bailey does and doesn't do. I know how important physical domination is in contact sport. One player brings that by the bucket, the other by the tea spoon.'"
Fair point - but I would be happier if Bailey were to take the ball up at least by the ladle and not by the desert spoon!
Quote G1="G1"IMHO, of course.'"
Mine too
